Aperture 2.0: They Listened

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When Aperture 1.0 was released, I jumped on it with full gusto. I'd been using a RAW workflow for years and knew that there was a better way of doing things than the existing tools allowed. Aperture was the first software tool out of the door that really took a deep look at what working photographers needed when working with digital cameras and tried to provide a solution that made sense for them. Something beyond just a one-shot-at-a-time philosophy that had dominated everyone's thinking because that was all that was needed when you were picking slides to scan into Photoshop. The Aperture team got a lot of things right. But they also got some things wrong. The database structure wasn't as efficient as it could be and there was a philosophical purity to the display of images that, while technically correct, slowed things down drastically. Several releases followed in fairly quick succession and by the start of 2007, Aperture had addressed several of its issues. But others remained. Speed was always a concern.

When Lightroom came out in January 2007, it didn't try to address as broad a scope as Aperture did. Its organizational tools weren't as robust. It didn't have the ability to put together books. It didn't have a light table. But, it had a few things that really mattered. The first was a very capable set of develop tools that provided a very nice set of image adjustments. The second was speed. When I test drove Lightroom on an event shoot in February or March, it let me get things done much faster. How much faster? Enough that I was able to go to bed noticeably sooner the night after a full conference day. Hours sooner. Given the kind of workflow that I have to use in my work, that was the big ticket feature for me. Speed. So, I switched out. I went to using Lightroom almost full time and left Aperture to gather dust. As part of that process, I moved from blogging on the Inside Aperture blog to the Inside Lightroom blog. After all, it is kind of hard to blog about a tool that you aren't using for most of your work.

Stairway

In making the switch, I thought that it was important to let people know why I was making the jump. In retrospect, making my reasons for moving in a public way was a bit like being a bull in a china shop. A few shelves got bumped over. But, as a result, or perhaps despite the fact, I was given a rare invitation to go to Cupertino and talk with the Aperture team about my workflow, what I needed from my workflow tools, and why I had made the jump to Lightroom. The timing was right, as I was just wrapping up a conference in San Jose. So, Pınar and I made the trip to Cupertino and found ourselves in a conference room with several members of the Aperture team, including several of the developers on the team.

It was a bit intimidating, really, to meet with the team. I've spent more than a decade creating software, so I know the lingo and had a really good idea of what the technical issues in building a tool like Aperture are. On the other hand, I know what it is like working on a product and putting your heart and soul into it. You establish a way of looking at the world when you are trying to solve people's problems. And the last thing I wanted to do was to have any of the Aperture team members think I thought that their work wasn't appreciated. Just the opposite. I knew what a big task this kind of development is. So, I knew that I needed to make my points as clearly and as succinctly as possible.

I'm not going to go into specifics about what we talked about. Our conversation that day wasn't under NDA and I wasn't provided with any future plans or thoughts for Aperture. But the fine-grained details of what we talked about aren't really important. What is important is that we had a conversation about my work, my current pain points with Aperture, and what I needed to do my work more effectively. Joe Schorr was really effective at asking some incredibly detailed questions that focused our discussion. And, after all was said and done, the biggest pain point that I had with Aperture in 2007 was speed.

Park Avenue

The one detail I will share is that, at one point, I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of "I don't really care how it is implemented under the covers, but what I need is to be able to zip through several hundred photos quickly and rank them. Boom. Boom. Boom. And while I'm doing that, I don't want to be waiting on the system to render up the images. Those little delays add up. Even if what I see on the display is slightly different because it is a cached JPG file instead of from the RAW data, it is good enough most of the time." To be sure, there were other areas that needed speed improvements, but just moving from one image to another needed to be smoother for my workflow.

After spending a few hours talking, both Pınar and I walked away that day with a much deeper appreciation of what we needed out of the tools that I use. And, I watched both Joe and many of the team members take notes throughout the session. Of course, not being under NDA, I have no idea what they did take away from that meeting, but I hoped that my input could help focus their efforts in some way. And, I hoped that they were talking with other photographers with other serious needs so that they could find the common threads of pain that they could address.

Köfte

It has been a while since that meeting. In fact, it seems like almost forever. During the rest of 2007 and up through the present, I kept on using Lightroom. After all, it was the tool that worked well given my particular circumstances. But, for many reasons, I was hoping that we'd see a strong Aperture 2.0 release. The primary reason is a selfish one: I want great tools to use in my own work. But, I also want to see healthy and strong competition between Adobe and Apple; the kind of competition that spurs both of them to continue to improve in major steps.

In early 2008, I started hearing mutterings that Aperture 2.0 was imminent. Nothing concrete, but it seemed like the consensus was building. Along with everyone else that uses a RAW workflow and these tools, I watched closely for a release at PMA. And of course, it didn't happen. But, in time it came. Of course, Aperture 2.0 showed up right when I was working a conference and traveling, so I've only had a limited amount of time to play with it so far. But in the week or so since its release, I've managed to kick the tires enough to know one thing: They listened.

As I said, I have no idea what was written down on Joe's notepad at the end of my meeting with the Aperture team. I've had no further contact with them. I have no idea how many other people they've talked with, except for the ones that are now publicly known as the Aperture Advisory Board including such notables as Bill Frakes, Vincent Laforet, and Mike Colon. Next to them, I'm small potatoes. But, my feedback must have been echoed by others because, as best as I can remember, most if not all of the pain points I raised in the meeting were addressed in one way or another. And every time I use the Quick Preview mode, I think of the moment in that room where I was talking about needing to move from image to image quickly while ranking. That particular feature feels like it was custom built for me, even as I know that many other people have raised the same concerns and needs.

Coffee Breaks of Long Ago

At this point, about a week after its release, I'm only just really getting deep into Aperture 2 and I have no idea if or how it is going to change my workflow. As I've mentioned to many people over the last year, I will always use the best tool for the job at hand and I will evaluate as many tools as I can squeeze into my time. But, I'm really happy to see this new release of Aperture come out. It s a strong release. And, even though Apple is famous for their secrecy and it is more than fair game to take them to task for not communicating with their professional users and leaving them in the dark at PMA, I want to give the Aperture team major kudos. They listened and then they went and did what good software engineers do: They came up with solutions for the problems they heard. Over the next few weeks, we'll find out if those solutions are good ones or not, and we'll likely find the next set things that we'd like to see in Aperture 3.0. And of course, the differences between Aperture and Lightroom will be further analyzed and compared. But given that the Aperture team did indeed listen well to what needed to be improved this last time around, I'm very optimistic about the prospects for future versions.

The images in this blog post are some of the first ones that I've processed with Aperture 2. I'm sure I'll have more to say about the workings of Aperture over the next few weeks.

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23 Comments

Really interesting post and I agree so much with your “good enough” point.

You should get your “it’s” and “its” sorted out though - fire your copy editor!

I have been in room full of engineers asking for my input before. It can be a little daunting. Once you spill it all out, there is the fear that you said too much, not enough, forgot something big.... Then you wait and wait, wondering if they will be able to do what you ask.
Glad that Apple is working with experts like this. I went through the process for years with Salomon Skis while they developed their inline skates, it was a very gratifying experience to see how much they cared and how much of their resources they put into product development. I still smile with pride when I put on the skates. They truly made the best skate ever.

I am giving Aperture 2.0 a workout this week.
It has been so long since I have fired it up. Used to have a lot of keyboard shortcuts sorted out. Now I have Lightroom’s in my head. Wish me luck/sanity.

Thanks for the review Duncan,
Christopher

greg.newman on February 19, 2008 4:41 AM

Great narrative Duncan.  It’s refreshing to hear a perspective from behind the scenes, and even more refreshing to know that what’s in 2.0 is a result of attentive engineers.

Duncan Davidson on February 19, 2008 7:50 AM

John: I’d love to have a copyeditor on staff. If there’s any one problem with writing blog posts is that copyeditors aren’t part of the mix. /sigh/

Christopher: The keyboard shortcut differences are quite annoying to me as well. I had them down cold and then, after so long away, the Lightroom shortcuts are burned in to my fingers. I’ve thought about going int and changing the key mappings--and quite glad that option exists.

And thanks for enjoying the narrative. For some reason, I debated a while before writing this up. But, now that I have, I’m glad I did.

Erik J. Barzeski on February 19, 2008 9:28 AM

Well told and indeed, virtually everyone would have probably listed speed first. Had Aperture 2.0 done nothing but improve the speed (and added RAW support for the newer cameras) Apple might still have sold nearly as many copies as they will.

Thanks for sharing your impressions - your comparison of the colorspaces, the RAW conversion, and print fidelity were key data in my choosing Lightroom over Aperture.

I’d love to see a similar analysis of Aperture 2.0, especially the rendering you showed of a gradually graded sky, where IIRC, the Aperture render showed significant banding.  (Link lost to the abyss, unfortunately...)

I’d been using Aperture since March 07 and just over three weeks ago downloaded Lightroom just to give it a try and was amazed at the difference in speed.  Within a couple days I’d made a decision to switch but with the hope that AP 2 would be out before I’d moved everything over.

After my initial 24 hours of AP 2 I decided I would probably stay with Lightroom. In the days since I’ve gone back several times to edit a few images in AP 2 and experiment more with browsing and searching. I think that because I spent nearly a year with AP I really wanted to stay with it. After nearly a week I’ve confirmed my decision to switch to LR and will probably go ahead and start moving the rest of my Aperture images over.

There’s no doubt AP 2.0 is an improvement in speed in both browsing and editing but I’m still seeing delays and the spinning beachball… less often of course but the fact that I’m still seeing it when I do not ever see it in LR says something about the basics.

In terms of RAW 2.0 in AP, the editing results are nearly identical with LR in terms of results. But, with the exception of the new retouch brush, it feels like more work in AP. With LR I seem to get slightly better images in much less time. That combined with the fact that browsing and searching with LR is still faster than AP and it’s a no brainer for me.

One last thought… I can’t help but think that the slight drag I’m still seeing with AP is tied to Apple’s reliance on the graphics card for some (or all?) of the heavy lifting. I’ve got a MB Pro with 2 gigs of ram, Core 2 Duo and… well, it still just feels sticky to me.

Duncan Davidson on February 19, 2008 11:21 AM

Tarek: I will be looking deep at the comparisons of things over time for my own evaluation. I’ll share as much of that as I can here on this blog. My initial impressions with the new RAW decoder is very positive, however.

Denny: Indeed, the drag is still there when adjusting on a MBP. I found that Pro Update 2 helped with things a _lot_, but it’s still there. Some of this is no doubt moving data to/from the video card I’m sure. But part of the difference is that I’m pretty sure that LR is doing some things with proxy images to speed things up. I’ve actually seen some differences between the fit image and 100% because of this in LR, but haven’t tracked down how much this affects things.

I’ve never had the chance to try out Aperture and make the comparison with Lr myself, as my computer doesn’t meet the minimum requirements for Aperture. I don’t have anything against Lr but like you said, I’ll go with whatever gets the job done best, so at some point when I get a new computer, I would like to give Aperture a shot.

I’ve always been under the impression that most of the metadata that makes these packages useful would be very tough to move from one to the other. As far as I know things like ratings, virtual copies, etc are stored in the DB file, which is specific to each application.

You have obviously moved a couple times; are you just leaving your libraries in whichever application you were using at the time? Do you have some good way of getting all your library data to the new app? Or am I just making the whole process out to be a lot more than it actually is?

Have you had any requests from the Adobe Lightroom development team for suggestions?

Trevor Weimer on February 20, 2008 8:34 AM

As a relatively light user of imaging programs due to the fact I’m just a hobbiest I haven’t been able to use either programs extensively. I will say that I have used both and yes Aperture was left to wither and die on the shelf. It was just too slow and I’ve got a decent enough set up. Lightroom on the other hand was perfect for my level of use and time constraints (kids, life and so forth). I’ve learnt it inside and out and my two favorite features are it’s speed and web site construction capabilities.
I’m now giving Aperture 2 a shot and so far in my unchanging life and it’s requirements I’m please to say Aperture has fit in better than before. Time will tell but so far I’ve left it’s icon on the dock, and that’s saying something.

This was about twice the length that it needed to be to convey what you had to say. You should let these posts pickle overnight and then edit.

Until Aperture is as novice-friendly with the presets as Lightroom, I don’t know how much headway Aperture will make outside of hardcore professionals. My wife understands Lightroom, but Aperture—even 2.0—makes her head ache.

Kendall Gelner on February 20, 2008 9:37 AM

I agree that they took a lot of community input to heart and addressed a lot of things.  The Clone/Healing tool is now fantastic, and even lets you work over a region which I did not think they would do.  They added print specific sharpening which I have not had a chance to use yet, but is something I was wanting. 

I also really like the new targeted color adjustment tools, targeted adjustments are the main thing I was really missing from Lightroom.  But almost as useful I have found is the Definition adjustment (equivalent to Clarity in Lightroom), often I find that adds just the adjustment to contrast I was looking for without being as heavy-handed as the Contrast slider.

Duncan Davidson on February 20, 2008 9:40 AM

Chris: Moving library data has been a pita at times. The last time I did it, I used a lot of bailing wire and chewing gum. It’s getting better now with more support of XMP. More investigation is needed to see how well Ap2 does on that point. I know that they don’t support XMP sidecars on import tho.

pr9000: I agree that Lightroom’s presets are nice. Aperture’s presets only address each individual tool. As well, I like Lightroom’s snapshot feature quite a bit and there’s no easy equivalent on Aperture short of making a virtual copy.

Dave Amirault on February 20, 2008 12:40 PM

Thankfully, they cleaned up the janky UI which leaves me more screen real estate for what matters most… My photos.

Patrick Henry on February 20, 2008 2:07 PM

Apple is still pathetically slow in supporting new cameras, and there are gaping holes in Apple’s camera support in general.

Unless you use a Leaf back.  Then you’re golden.

Kendall Gelner on February 20, 2008 7:30 PM

I think we need to cut Apple a little slack and not extrapolate camera support times around the recent D300/D3 delay - obviously around that time they were finishing up Aperture and the 2.0 conversion, so the delay was longer than it would have been otherwise.  Going forward I think we’ll see faster response times around cameras.

Why should Apple be cut any slack? Would you be so charitable to other companies if they had done the same? In any case, the point was about gaping holes, not just recent slowness.

Thanks for the writeup Duncan. Like you I used Aperture 1 for a long time and took longer than you to move to Lightroom. Once I wrapped my head around LR and got a bit more facile with it and stopped judging it as my second choice I started to like it.

I spent some time with A2 the other day and while the speed issue is solved, I now find that I like Lightroom’s tools better. It may be that I’m just more comfortable with them from having used them more intensively recently but in fact I do.

I’m a MacBook Pro user first and hope never to use a desktop Mac again. That being the case, performance has always been my #1 issue. On my current first generation MBP with 2 gigs of memory, LR still outperforms A2.

Duncan, great perspective.

AP 2 is proving to be a really great, solid upgrade for me, a prosumer. It culls through tens of thousands of images with ease, quickly makes important adjustments, and works great on my MB Pro. Its system integration is also a nice plus for Mac users.

Aperture 2 also sports customizable keyboard shortcuts, which can be exported and imported. Somebody should post the standard LR set. 

By the way, you don’t need to fire your copy editor. Your “its” correctly reflects the possessive pronoun.

Patrick Henry on February 21, 2008 12:15 PM

Kendall,

I’m a Canon shooter.  I wasn’t referring to the D3/D300 delay specifically.

How about the ongoing Pentax K100D Super delay?  That camera was announced, came on the market, and went off the market already, and STILL there is no support for it from Apple.  WTF?

And will there ever be Sigma/Foveon support?

Then why are Leaf backs supported so fully?  How many possible Aperture customers could be using Leaf backs?  Nine?  O.K., maybe a baker’s dozen?  Thing is, you can bet good money El Jobso is a Leaf back user.

I’m curious to see what happens with the plugin architecture. It’s been mentioned that it’s a bit more extensible than what is currently advertised. Wondering if that will translate into more support for specific cameras, from third party developers?

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